Kathy Lindert: Rocks from Mother Nature, FTS, and the Art of Commanding Your Day

About this episode

In this episode of AWAKEN, Ryan sits down with Kathy Lindert — certified hypnotist, former stockbroker and mortgage banker, published author, first responder specialist, and the woman behind The Mental Edge LLC in Charlotte, North Carolina — for one of the most energetic, practical, and genuinely funny conversations the show has had. Kathy came out smiling, as her mother will confirm, and has not really stopped since. She's been quoted in Woman's World and Discover magazine, has been doing this for over 20 years, and is presenting at HypnoThoughts Live on Friday morning, which means everybody better show up sharp because she will be moving fast.

Kathy did not come into hypnosis from a spiritual background or a healing calling. She came in from the Yellow Pages, a mortgage banker suit, a briefcase, and a son named Kevin who had OCD so severe he wouldn't eat and couldn't sleep. Medication was making it worse. She found a tiny article in Prevention Magazine that said hypnosis helps with fears and phobias. She was having panic attacks of her own — couldn't drive over bridges, felt her world caving in. She called a school in Edison, New Jersey the next day, told them she'd pay for it one week at a time if it didn't work, showed up with her pens and her pad, told them to pick on her as much as they wanted because she was there to learn, and went home that night with one NLP knuckle technique. She did it with Kevin. He slept through the night. The teachers started asking questions. Her panic attacks about bridges dissolved after one session, and she used the same anchor — green, the number seven, left hand — to drive over the Tappan Zee for the first time.

That was her entry point. Twenty-plus years later, she has built a practice around the people who need it most and are the least likely to ask: first responders. Police officers, firefighters, EMS workers, nurses — people who absorb other people's trauma and crisis all day, get screamed at, get called names, have to hold it together in front of everyone, and statistically have one of the highest suicide rates of any profession. The tipping point for Kathy was a police officer on Highway 485, Steel Creek, who pulled off the road and killed himself. She said, there has to be a better way. She is now one of the people building it, and her HypnoThoughts presentation will teach practitioners not just the techniques but how to actually break through the blue line and get in the door.

The conversation is also full of practical gold: her three rules for every client (it's about you, we're changing your language, and yes, she curses), why she gives out rocks from the Jersey Shore and Lake Wiley and why losing one means Mother Nature took care of it, why she anchors in a higher power whenever she has permission to, the knuckle technique she used on Kevin that night, why she demands a number instead of the word "good," how she did better success rates on Zoom during COVID than in person because clients could rewatch the session, and why she finishes every induction with God kissing the client on the forehead and saying I love you, I'm here, lean on me.

She closes with the word that started it all: Abracadabra. Aramaic for I will create as I speak. She holds it up on her phone for the camera, lets it land, and says, be careful with what you take in, because that's what you're creating. It lands exactly as it should.

Three quotes from Kathy worth writing down:

"I teach them to not own that shit. I teach them to command their day."

"When you constantly hear derogatory statements, it does something to the person's psyche and their confidence. And so I teach them to change their language. I can. I will. I'm worth it. I'm important."

"Abracadabra is Aramaic for I will create as I speak. Be careful with what you say, or what you take in, because that's what you're creating."

Connect with Kathy Lindert: Website: mentaledgellc.com Kathy is based in Charlotte, North Carolina, and sees clients both in person and on Zoom, with ongoing referrals from doctors in New York and New Jersey Books: How to Quit Smoking Without Gaining Weight (currently being updated and rereleased) — search Kathy Lindert on Amazon HypnoThoughts Live: Friday morning session on working with first responders, including techniques and a full marketing breakdown for practitioners who want to break into this community

Connect with Ryan DeJonghe / TranceWell: Website: trancewell.help Email: [email protected]