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Rob Zuber is seeing the gap widen

31 August 2026 1:16:28 Kyle Hodgson

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Rob is the CTO at Circle CI, and I was really interested to hear what all he can see from their vantage point - and it didn’t disappoint. He had lots of broad ranging insights in to what teams are doing all over the capability map; median to P90, how they’re different and what’s working.

A super insightful conversation! And he’s also just got a great energy, super fun conversation.

Key Topics

  • AI’s impact on software development and testing
  • Organizational adaptation to rapid change with AI
  • Tools and mental models for AI-driven coding
  • Revising requirements and workflows in the AI era
  • Merge efficiency and reducing friction in CI/CD pipelines
  • The role of agents and prompts in software engineering
  • Organizational hiring and contribution patterns in AI-driven environments Impact of AI on software testing and debugging
  • Shift towards product thinking and distributed decision-making
  • The role of tooling and automation in quality assurance
  • Changing team structures and roles in software organizations
  • Strategies for managing system complexity and incident response

As usual, thanks to Navalia our founding sponsor!

We have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to deciding what will be next, I have interviews ready from so many super interesting guests that I can’t decide who will be next yet:

  • Maybe Pete Hodgson; our second ever guest, super insightful and in a new role where he’s seeing even more, back to talk about what he’s been up to
  • Or Shingai Samudzi, CEO and Founder of Asoba about how they’re using JEPA world models to improve solar in Africa
  • or Ian Johnson, author of https://leanpub.com/harness-engineering who has been building agent factories at Parento?

Plus, I have even more interviews scheduled! It’s been a great summer and its looking like it will be a fantastic fall on Engineering With AI.

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