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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder with Nilay Patel

What Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is really about

23 July 2026 44:05 The Verge

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About this episode

Today, I’m talking with Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter, about the major trade secrets lawsuit between Apple and OpenAI, and what this tells us about OpenAI’s future.

Hayden has been covering OpenAI for years now, and she also just talked to a bunch of lawyers who specialize in intellectual property and trade secret law to get a sense of how serious this case is. The answer is not entirely positive for OpenAI. This legal battle could also affect OpenAI’s hardware plans, its forthcoming IPO, and its already-damaged reputation.

Links:

  • Sam Altman didn’t need another lawsuit | The Verge
  • OpenAI’s first device will be moveable, screenless speaker | Bloomberg
  • Apple sues OpenAI for allegedly stealing hardware secrets | The Verge
  • The 6 wildest claims in Apple’s lawsuit against OpenAI | The Verge
  • OpenAI is buying Jony Ive’s AI hardware company | The Verge


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Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane.

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